aaus-list @ ukrainianstudies.org -- RE: [aaus-list] a suggestion

[grimsted@fas.harvard.edu]

Dear Andrew and Aleks et al!

Of coourse I am ready to add my name to the list in connection with the ongoing
MAUP incident, where one friend and several acquaintances are involved.
But I fear that such issues really do need to be handled on a case-to-case
basis, and particularly with the advice of some of you who know more about the
legal and practical impact of such "foreign" statements in Ukraine.  I think we
have to be aware that too much "foreign" invervention, and/or foreign signatures
in some cases (such as mine) may prove counter productive. If the MAUP case is
one where my signature could help, I'll be glad to add it.

I doubt a general policy is the answer, but let's continue the discussion.

PAT



Quoting ajmotyl@andromeda.rutgers.edu:

> The American Association of University Professors has some sort of
> (presumably sufficiently rule-governed) mechanism for monitoring US
> universities. That might be a place to start looking.
>
>
>
> > Not to slow the response process, but there is obviously a danger of AAUS
> > getting drawn into taking positions on complex issues on incomplete or
> > misleading evidence and thus publicly compromising itself (which would no
> > doubt delight some individuals). Thus, it is not enough to have a monitor
> > and guidelines: we must ensure that there is a procedure for full and fair
> > examination of each issue as it comes up. That includes giving both sides
> > a "hearing" and opportunity to respond to charges. Perhaps a small group
> > of, say, three persons could examine such cases. While the MAUP incident
> > may be clear-cut, in other contexts inflammatory charges like antisemitism
> > are all too easy to make. This may strike some of you as legalistic, but
> > one purpose of rules and procedures is to avoid regettable mistakes.
> > Andrew Sorokowski
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aaus-list-bounces@ukrainianstudies.org
> > [mailto:aaus-list-bounces@ukrainianstudies.org] On Behalf Of
> > ajmotyl@andromeda.rutgers.edu
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 1:33 PM
> > To: aaus-list@ukrainianstudies.org
> > Subject: [aaus-list] a suggestion
> > Importance: Low
> >
> > The recent scramble re the MAUP case leads me to make the following
> > suggestions:
> > 1) AAUS should routinely, and immediately, respond to all expressions of
> > xenophobia and anti-semitism in Ukraine, and especially by Ukrainian
> > academics. It shouldn't be necessary for our colleagues there to appeal to
> > us here on a case by case basis.
> > 2) AAUS may want to establish something on the order of a "Ukrainian
> > Academic Monitor", which will report on academic malfeasance in Ukraine.
> > It would of course be necessary to have some sort of widely recognized set
> > of guidelines (which surely must already exist). Reports of malfeasance
> > would have to be accompanied by full name, address, email, and academic
> > affilation -- and, if possible, some sort of evidence. The AAUP includes
> > in its publication a list of US universities that have violated academic
> > standards and AAUS could do the same.
> >
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